Modified Sprinkler Valve Trouble Shooting
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:50 am
My sprinkler valve does not work. On firing at 40psi, air just blows out of the airgun, without launching anything. Can you please read my story, look at the photos and offer me some advice.
I modified a sprinkler valve, a Rainmaker 1 inch model (Photo 1). Although I read the tutorial on modifying such valves, I took the essence of that advice but mounted the blowgun not on the sprinkler valve cap but on the solenoid mounting.
I did this because I feared that over time, kick back translated though the blowgun would undermine the threaded plastic seat for the blow gun, and thus loosen the mounting. Blow guns have small tight threads illsuited to tapping into softer materials like plastic, and can vulnerable to damage from normal wear and tear.
Mindful that the modification works on the principle of massively depressurising the upper chamber of the sprinkler valve, thus causing the diaphram to collapse away from force and simultaneously unsealing the outlet, I tried to maximise airflow to the airgun. I tried to minimise narrow spaces, the bottlenecks which might slow airflow from the upper chamber to the airgun.
Here is a description of how the air moves to the blowgun. I bored out the port leading from the upper chamber of the sprinkler valve to the solenoid mounting (where my blow gun is seated). I bored the port out to 4 millimetres. See photo 2. The blowgun is screwed into the solenoid mounting via two plastic adaptors. Each adaptor has at least a centimetre diameter of internal space. The lower and larger plastic adaptor that is screwed into the solenoid mounting sits 4-5 millimetres above the port from the upper chamber. The blowgun's bore is at the narrowest point 6 millimetres in diameter.
My first problem was that the gun would not pressurise and air escaped under the diaphram and through the outlet instead of seaping through the equalisation hole in the diaphram. Spudwiki suggested that some people remove the white plastic plug from the equalisation hole to increase air flow during pressurisation when the air is pumped in. That is what I did. See photo 3. It solved the problem, and I was able to start filling the chamber/tank of the gun.
So what is the problem? Now when I press the release button on the airgun, air rushes out of the airgun. But the diaphram does not open.
Just so you know, I have cleaned the diaphram and seat in the valve. The bleed screw and other solenoid ports have been blocked.
My theories? That the equalisation hole is now too large. On firing, air can drain out of the equalisation hole, through the upper chamber of the sprinkler valve and out the airgun without activating the diaphram. Or conversely, the passages to the airgun are too narrow, and thus the airgun cannot release enough air quickly enough to depressurise the upper chamber and activate the diaphram.
I don't want to install the airgun into the cap of the sprinkler valve, for the reason noted earlier.
What are my options? Make the equalisation hole smaller, and/or enlarge the passage to the airgun? Any other options?
Your advice will be gratefully received.
I modified a sprinkler valve, a Rainmaker 1 inch model (Photo 1). Although I read the tutorial on modifying such valves, I took the essence of that advice but mounted the blowgun not on the sprinkler valve cap but on the solenoid mounting.
I did this because I feared that over time, kick back translated though the blowgun would undermine the threaded plastic seat for the blow gun, and thus loosen the mounting. Blow guns have small tight threads illsuited to tapping into softer materials like plastic, and can vulnerable to damage from normal wear and tear.
Mindful that the modification works on the principle of massively depressurising the upper chamber of the sprinkler valve, thus causing the diaphram to collapse away from force and simultaneously unsealing the outlet, I tried to maximise airflow to the airgun. I tried to minimise narrow spaces, the bottlenecks which might slow airflow from the upper chamber to the airgun.
Here is a description of how the air moves to the blowgun. I bored out the port leading from the upper chamber of the sprinkler valve to the solenoid mounting (where my blow gun is seated). I bored the port out to 4 millimetres. See photo 2. The blowgun is screwed into the solenoid mounting via two plastic adaptors. Each adaptor has at least a centimetre diameter of internal space. The lower and larger plastic adaptor that is screwed into the solenoid mounting sits 4-5 millimetres above the port from the upper chamber. The blowgun's bore is at the narrowest point 6 millimetres in diameter.
My first problem was that the gun would not pressurise and air escaped under the diaphram and through the outlet instead of seaping through the equalisation hole in the diaphram. Spudwiki suggested that some people remove the white plastic plug from the equalisation hole to increase air flow during pressurisation when the air is pumped in. That is what I did. See photo 3. It solved the problem, and I was able to start filling the chamber/tank of the gun.
So what is the problem? Now when I press the release button on the airgun, air rushes out of the airgun. But the diaphram does not open.
Just so you know, I have cleaned the diaphram and seat in the valve. The bleed screw and other solenoid ports have been blocked.
My theories? That the equalisation hole is now too large. On firing, air can drain out of the equalisation hole, through the upper chamber of the sprinkler valve and out the airgun without activating the diaphram. Or conversely, the passages to the airgun are too narrow, and thus the airgun cannot release enough air quickly enough to depressurise the upper chamber and activate the diaphram.
I don't want to install the airgun into the cap of the sprinkler valve, for the reason noted earlier.
What are my options? Make the equalisation hole smaller, and/or enlarge the passage to the airgun? Any other options?
Your advice will be gratefully received.