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Semi Auto Pistol Design w/Unique Valve

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:26 am
by FreakyShotGlass
Here is a new design that I came up with for a small calibre semi auto pistol. The tank would be filled with either liquid propane or high pressure air. The solenoid would open for a split second allowing only a tiny amount of gas to pass through and hopefully allow for multiple shots.

Any ideas for magazines? Also has this sort of valve been done before?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:31 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
That is vaguely the same principle as the one used by the Daystate Mk.3 that uses a solenoid to strike a hammer valve open. It looks like it would work well provided your solenoid is strong enough.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:39 am
by spud yeti
Looks good, were you planning to shoot BBs with it?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:51 am
by FreakyShotGlass
I was either going to shoot 6mm bb's or .22 air gun pellets.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:00 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
FreakyShotGlass wrote:I was either going to shoot 6mm bb's or .22 air gun pellets.
go for BBs, you can have a simple mag in a tee like this:

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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:01 am
by spud yeti
6mm ball bearings would be easier to create a loading mech I think, but .22 air gun pellets are pretty awesome. But you can recycle BBs, ulike the pellets
The final vote for yeti: 6mm BBs :wink:

It going to be awesome though!

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:05 am
by FreakyShotGlass
Ill have to start saving up then. Where do you think Ill be able to find a 6mm tee. Maybe Ill have to make one in my ghetto machine shop.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:12 am
by spud yeti
Damn, JSR beat me there, so now I look like a weiner just backing up what he said :x

Oh well

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:12 pm
by jimmy101
Google RC warships.

The gun's they use for competitions generally fire BBs and are semiauto (full auto is against the rules).

Since the ships are so small they use a fairly small pressure bottle. The magazine they use is exactly the thing freaky might want to take a look at.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:15 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
spud yeti wrote:Damn, JSR beat me there, so now I look like a weiner just backing up what he said :x
A molesting weiner :P :D

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:50 am
by FreakyShotGlass
I made a prototype today and it works apart from some sealing issues.
ie. It leaks alot but the valve obviously works.
I'll hopefully get round to fixing it up in the next few days.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:03 am
by frankrede
Pictures would be awesome, I would love to see how this turns out.
and a 6mm t could made easily with epoxy and 6mm copper tubing

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:16 am
by spud yeti
A molesting weiner :P :D
LOL!

I would also like to see pics of the setup!

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:13 am
by FreakyShotGlass
For the valve I used a modified direct acting 3/4" sprinkler valve, I took out the diaphragm and made it so the solenoid armature opens/closes the barrel like the diagram.
I'll get some pics up soon.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:18 pm
by mike1010
i love this idea it would be nive to use a regulated co2 cartridge for looks and ease.